Case Study 3 - Be Honest with the Bank
Graydon Street - an Investor Short Sale

This short sale was a nice two family brick house on a
street called Graydon. We found this house through our short
sale foreclosure direct mail marketing. The owner was a fellow
investor. We played phone tag for some time but finally got
together. They had 6 rental properties in foreclosure! And they
all were over financed and needed short
sales. Two of them had gone to sheriff sale
within the first few days we were talking to them while we were
starting to gather paperwork and inspect the properties. We
still had 4 houses to work on. We went to Graydon first.
Description of the Property
Graydon was a two family with a tenant on the first floor
that paid $400 a month. It really wasn't in bad shape; just a
leaky pipe under the sink and it would need new carpet and
paint. That was fairly easy.
The second floor was actually a second and third floor with
a total square footage of 2700 square feet.
The second floor kitchen was pretty good for
rental property. The bathroom was nasty and would need
everything replaced; toilet, tub, and cabinets. We figured
$12,000 in total repairs including the third
floor. You could put up a couple of walls
and closets to have another little bedrooms and make it a 4
bedroom with a large play area on the 3rd floor.. You could
rent it for a lot more money and easily twice as much as the
first floor if you rented it to Section 8.
The Offer
Well, we offered $26,000 on this
property. We started thinking that was too much money. The bank
ordered and had the BPO (Brokers price Opinion) done within 5
days of receiving our offer. They called us back on a Friday
night about eight o'clock to let us know our offer was being
submitted for approval. Before noon the next day, Saturday, the
bank called to get a fax number to send us an acceptance
letter.
The Acceptance
They accepted our first bid. We were
concerned, something was wrong. And you should be concerned to
when the bank accepts your first offer. We
thought we missed something. But we went forward with a closing
date of about 30 days later.
The Marketing
We advertised our house at REIA and put together a
flyer. We put an ad in the newspaper looking
for buyers in that part of town too. That’s always a great way
to build your buyers list. Advertise a
handyman special and get more people to
call. Gather all their information –
- Where they want to own houses
- How much cash they will spend
- How many bedrooms/baths must they have
- What kind of repairs should the house NOT have,
etc.
We didn't get anybody interested. We advertised it at REIA
again. We called people that we knew that
bought in that part of town. We actually had a few people
interested in looking at it. We set up an appointment for them
all to come on the same afternoon so we didn't have to go over
there four separate times. We staggered the appointments a half
hour apart. One guy he said he wouldn’t pay more than $12,000
for the house. So we kind of panicked that
we had over estimated this thing.
Somebody said that there were a whole lot more repairs there
than what we saw for $12,000. We were still a little concerned
maybe that's why we couldn't find a buyer. A few days before
the sheriff sale and before we were supposed to close the bank
called and asked how the closing was coming?
We told them we were still looking for a buyer, but were hoping
to close by the end of the month.
Ok, great, so it got to be January 31st . The bank called.
Basically, we told them the truth. We do not have the funds to
close this house. We are not going to be able to close by
January 31st. We told the bank that our lender would not lend
us that much money for this house.
We told them we were looking for another
lender and have every intention on closing this deal and please
don't give up on us. All they wanted was reassurance that we
weren’t going to walk on it. Yes, they told us that they would
give us until January 31st. They told us they were closing the
file. That was basically their negotiation tactic. But we
couldn't find a buyer. We didn't want to hold this property.
They were willing to wait for us. They weren't going to give up
on us. We were still looking for somebody else to bring money
to the table. That is exactly what we were doing. We
never lied to the bank. We might have stretched the
truth a bit but that was exactly what we were doing; finding
someone to bring money to the table.
We kept looking, ran another ad in the
paper, kept advertising at the local REIA group. We did start
to panic a little bit. We decreased the price a couple thousand
dollars. The ARV of this property was $58,000 to $70,000 in
great shape. It should be a good money maker. You could
probably rent the second and third floors for $700 to $1000 a
month. 70% of $70000 is $49,000 minus $10,000 (repairs) is
$39,000. We were asking $39,000 so we reduced it a little bit
to$ 35,900. We actually sold it for $34,900.
The funny thing of how we found our buyer
is that were selling him a house in another neighborhood. We
went over to put a lock box on the door and the neighbor came
over and asked if we were selling this house. Her landlord had
told her that if any of the houses on the street ever came up
for sale to let him know.
You can only guess that we called him
right away. He was very excited about it. He
told us to let him know about other houses we had for sale.
That’s how we sold Graydon to him. It was priced at $34,500 so
we'd still make $9000 on the property. At
this point we weren't concerned with how much money we made so
much as that we got it sold. He had cash and
was able to close quickly. Everyone was happy, the buyer, the
bank and us.
We called the bank and told them we were able to close. We
needed a new acceptance letter and were going to close the 23rd
of February. Within an hour, we had a new acceptance letter. It
was amazing. So they can be quick at the end
of the month. They want that deal on their monthly quota. They
have to meet a certain quota of closing deals per
month. I'm sure they get paid commission on
it. I'm sure they don't get paid the kind of commission we
like. They may get paid $500 - $1,000. They're excited about it
So, we did end up closing both deals on the same day.
Never give up on your bank, yes they say
they've got to close on such and such a date and it's really
important that you meet that goal or try to meet that goal.
I've never had the banks say no to a reasonable
extension. They want the deal to close as
much as we do. They're going to stretch the
time to make that happen.
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